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>>WE’RE JUST GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE BREAKING NEWS COVERAGE WITH THE BREAKING NEWS COVERAGE THAT YOU STARTED IN THE LAST THAT YOU STARTED IN THE LAST HOUR. HOUR.>>THANKS, LAWRENCE.>>THANKS, LAWRENCE.>>THANK YOU VERY MUCH.>>THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE’RE JOINED BY ONE OF THE WE’RE JOINED BY ONE OF THE REPORTERS WHO BROKE THIS STORY REPORTERS WHO BROKE THIS STORY FOR “THE WASHINGTON POST,” A FOR “THE WASHINGTON POST,” A NATIONAL SECURITY REPORTER FOR NATIONAL SECURITY REPORTER FOR “THE WASHINGTON POST.” “THE WASHINGTON POST.” ELLEN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ELLEN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US TONIGHT WITH THIS JOINING US TONIGHT WITH THIS BREAKING NEWS. BREAKING NEWS. ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED IN ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED IN THE LAW, IS THAT IT SAYS THE THE LAW, IS THAT IT SAYS THE INSPECTOR GENERAL HAS A DUTY TO INSPECTOR GENERAL HAS A DUTY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE EMPLOYEE. COMMUNICATE WITH THE EMPLOYEE. THE INSPECTOR GENERAL HAS A DUTY THE INSPECTOR GENERAL HAS A DUTY TO LET THE EMPLOYEE KNOW WHAT TO LET THE EMPLOYEE KNOW WHAT HAS HAPPENED. HAS HAPPENED. SO IT’S ENTIRELY POSSIBLE THAT SO IT’S ENTIRELY POSSIBLE THAT THE EMPLOYEE KNOWS WHAT HAS THE EMPLOYEE KNOWS WHAT HAS HAPPENED BEFORE READING IT IN HAPPENED BEFORE READING IT IN YOUR NEWSPAPER TONIGHT. YOUR NEWSPAPER TONIGHT.>>IT’S POSSIBLE.>>IT’S POSSIBLE. WE DID CONTACT THE WHISTLE WE DID CONTACT THE WHISTLE BLOWER’S ATTORNEY WHO HAD NO BLOWER’S ATTORNEY WHO HAD NO COMMENT ON THE STORY SO WE COMMENT ON THE STORY SO WE ASSUME THAT CERTAINLY BY NOW THE ASSUME THAT CERTAINLY BY NOW THE WHISTLE BLOWER KNOWS. WHISTLE BLOWER KNOWS.>>WHAT IS THE REPORTING THAT>>WHAT IS THE REPORTING THAT HAS NARROWED THIS DOWN TO THE HAS NARROWED THIS DOWN TO THE INFORMATION APPEARS TO INVOLVE INFORMATION APPEARS TO INVOLVE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES? STATES?>>WELL, FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU>>WELL, FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE LETTERS THAT TAKE A LOOK AT THE LETTERS THAT WERE EXCHANGED BY THE OFFICE OF WERE EXCHANGED BY THE OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL THE DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE AND THE GENERAL INTELLIGENCE AND THE GENERAL COUNSEL THERE, AND THE HILL, AS COUNSEL THERE, AND THE HILL, AS WELL AS LETTERS FROM ADAM WELL AS LETTERS FROM ADAM SCHIFF, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE SCHIFF, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE BACK TO DNI JOSEPH MAGUIRE, IT’S BACK TO DNI JOSEPH MAGUIRE, IT’S QUITE CLEAR THEY POINT THE WAY QUITE CLEAR THEY POINT THE WAY THE LETTERS SPECIFY, FIRST OF THE LETTERS SPECIFY, FIRST OF ALL THE WHISTLE BLOWER IS ALL THE WHISTLE BLOWER IS SOMEONE INSIDE THE INTELLIGENCE SOMEONE INSIDE THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY REPORTING CONDUCT BY COMMUNITY REPORTING CONDUCT BY SOMEONE WHO IS NOT INSIDE THE SOMEONE WHO IS NOT INSIDE THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY. INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY. THAT CONDUCT COULD POTENTIALLY THAT CONDUCT COULD POTENTIALLY INVOLVE PRIVILEGED INVOLVE PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATIONS. COMMUNICATIONS. THAT NARROWS IT DOWN ALREADY. THAT NARROWS IT DOWN ALREADY. PRETTY MUCH TO THERE IS REALLY PRETTY MUCH TO THERE IS REALLY ONLY ONE ENTITY IN THE U.S. ONLY ONE ENTITY IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT OUTSIDE THE GOVERNMENT OUTSIDE THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY THAT INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY THAT MIGHT HAVE ACCESS TO SUCH MIGHT HAVE ACCESS TO SUCH SENSITIVE INFORMATION AND CLAIM SENSITIVE INFORMATION AND CLAIM PRIVILEGE OVER IT AND THAT IS PRIVILEGE OVER IT AND THAT IS THE WHITE HOUSE. THE WHITE HOUSE. AT THAT POINT A LIMITED SET OF AT THAT POINT A LIMITED SET OF PEOPLE AT THE WHITE HOUSE. PEOPLE AT THE WHITE HOUSE. THEN FROM THERE, WE’VE GOT THEN FROM THERE, WE’VE GOT SOURCES WE SPOKE TO INCLUDING SOURCES WE SPOKE TO INCLUDING TWO FORMER U.S. OFFICIALS WHO TWO FORMER U.S. OFFICIALS WHO CONFIRMED FOR US THAT THE CONFIRMED FOR US THAT THE COMPLAINT INVOLVED A PHONE CALL COMPLAINT INVOLVED A PHONE CALL OR INVOLVED A COMMUNICATION THAT OR INVOLVED A COMMUNICATION THAT TRUMP HAD WITH A FOREIGN LEADER TRUMP HAD WITH A FOREIGN LEADER AND A PROMISE OF SOME SORT AND AND A PROMISE OF SOME SORT AND ONE OF THOSE FORMER OFFICIALS ONE OF THOSE FORMER OFFICIALS SAID IT WAS A PHONE CALL IN SAID IT WAS A PHONE CALL IN RECENT MONTHS. RECENT MONTHS.>>AND THE — YOU HAVE REPORTING>>AND THE — YOU HAVE REPORTING IN YOUR STORY THAT INDICATES IN YOUR STORY THAT INDICATES THAT THE ACTING DIRECTOR OF THAT THE ACTING DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE MAGUIRE IS NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE MAGUIRE IS TORN, IS NOT PLEASED WITH WHAT TORN, IS NOT PLEASED WITH WHAT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HAS DONE THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HAS DONE IN ITS INTERVENTION IN THIS CASE IN ITS INTERVENTION IN THIS CASE AND IS NOT PLEASED WITH WHAT THE AND IS NOT PLEASED WITH WHAT THE WHITE HOUSE HAS DONE. WHITE HOUSE HAS DONE.>>WELL, WHAT WE KNOW, WHAT>>WELL, WHAT WE KNOW, WHAT WE’RE HEARING, FIRST OF ALL, THE WE’RE HEARING, FIRST OF ALL, THE ACTING DNI JOSEPH MAGUIRE IS NOT ACTING DNI JOSEPH MAGUIRE IS NOT SOMEONE WHO WAS ANGLING FOR THIS SOMEONE WHO WAS ANGLING FOR THIS JOB. JOB. HE WAS KIND OF PUT INTO IT AFTER HE WAS KIND OF PUT INTO IT AFTER DNI DANIEL COATS WAS, YOU KNOW, DNI DANIEL COATS WAS, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY ASKED TO RESIGN. BASICALLY ASKED TO RESIGN. AND THEN HIS DEPUTY SUE GORDON AND THEN HIS DEPUTY SUE GORDON WAS ALSO SORT OF ASKED TO WAS ALSO SORT OF ASKED TO RESIGN. RESIGN. AND SO THERE WAS A VACANCY. AND SO THERE WAS A VACANCY. HE GOT TAPPED. HE GOT TAPPED. IT WASN’T SOMETHING HE WAS IT WASN’T SOMETHING HE WAS LOOKING FOR. LOOKING FOR. HE’S NOT A CAREER INTELLIGENCE HE’S NOT A CAREER INTELLIGENCE PERSON WHO CAME UP THROUGH THE PERSON WHO CAME UP THROUGH THE SPY RANKS LET’S SAY. SPY RANKS LET’S SAY. HERE HE IS, NEW TO THE JOB, AND HERE HE IS, NEW TO THE JOB, AND HE IS THRUST INTO THIS VERY HE IS THRUST INTO THIS VERY POLITICALLY PERILOUS SITUATION, POLITICALLY PERILOUS SITUATION, AND THIS IS NOT SOMETHING — AND THIS IS NOT SOMETHING — HE’S NOT A LAWYER, VERY MUCH NOT HE’S NOT A LAWYER, VERY MUCH NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS ISSUE. FAMILIAR WITH THIS ISSUE. AND WE’RE TOLD HE’S NOT, YOU AND WE’RE TOLD HE’S NOT, YOU KNOW, HE FEELS SORT OF CAUGHT KNOW, HE FEELS SORT OF CAUGHT BETWEEN HIS COMPETING INSTINCTS. BETWEEN HIS COMPETING INSTINCTS.>>I WANT TO QUOTE YOUR>>I WANT TO QUOTE YOUR REPORTING ON WHY HE HAS NOT REPORTING ON WHY HE HAS NOT COMPLIED WITH WHAT APPEARS TO BE COMPLIED WITH WHAT APPEARS TO BE THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAW. THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAW. YOUR REPORTING SAYS THE DNI HAS YOUR REPORTING SAYS THE DNI HAS ASSERTED THAT LAWYERS DETERMINED ASSERTED THAT LAWYERS DETERMINED THERE WAS NO NOTIFICATION THERE WAS NO NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENT BECAUSE THE WHISTLE REQUIREMENT BECAUSE THE WHISTLE BLOWER COMPLAINT DID NOT BLOWER COMPLAINT DID NOT CONSTITUTE AN URGENT CONCERN CONSTITUTE AN URGENT CONCERN THAT WAS WITHIN THE THAT WAS WITHIN THE RESPONSIBILITY AND AUTHORITY OF RESPONSIBILITY AND AUTHORITY OF MAGUIRE’S OFFICE. MAGUIRE’S OFFICE. DO YOU HAVE ANY INDICATION WHERE DO YOU HAVE ANY INDICATION WHERE THEY GOT, WHAT WAS THE BASIS OF THEY GOT, WHAT WAS THE BASIS OF THAT LEGAL OPINION? THAT LEGAL OPINION? BECAUSE I CAN’T FIND ANYTHING IN BECAUSE I CAN’T FIND ANYTHING IN THE LAW THAT THAT WOULD POINT THE LAW THAT THAT WOULD POINT TO. TO.>>IF YOU LOOK AT THE STATUTE,>>IF YOU LOOK AT THE STATUTE, THERE IS A LINE WHERE THEY THERE IS A LINE WHERE THEY DEFINE URGENT CONCERN, AND IT, DEFINE URGENT CONCERN, AND IT, YOU KNOW, URGENT CONCERN YOU KNOW, URGENT CONCERN INVOLVES A FLAGRANT ABUSE OF INVOLVES A FLAGRANT ABUSE OF POWER, A PROBLEM RELATING TO AN POWER, A PROBLEM RELATING TO AN INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITY THAT IS, INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITY THAT IS, DOT, DOT, DOT, WITHIN THE DOT, DOT, DOT, WITHIN THE RESPONSIBILITY AND AUTHORITY OF RESPONSIBILITY AND AUTHORITY OF THE DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL THE DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE. INTELLIGENCE. AND I BELIEVE THAT’S WHERE THEY AND I BELIEVE THAT’S WHERE THEY GOT THAT. GOT THAT. HOWEVER, IT SEEMS APPARENT TO ME HOWEVER, IT SEEMS APPARENT TO ME THAT THE INSPECTOR GENERAL FOR THAT THE INSPECTOR GENERAL FOR THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY DETERMINED THAT THIS WAS AN DETERMINED THAT THIS WAS AN INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY ACTIVITY INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY ACTIVITY WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE ODNI WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE ODNI AND, THEREFORE, THIS WAS AND, THEREFORE, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, HE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, HE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT. COULD TAKE A LOOK AT.>>DID YOUR SOURCES HAVE ANY>>DID YOUR SOURCES HAVE ANY INDICATION OF WHO THE PRESIDENT INDICATION OF WHO THE PRESIDENT COULD HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH? COULD HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH?>>WE DID NOT GET ANY INDICATION

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