Cardinal Dolan sounds off on New York’s ‘hideous’ abortion law

Cardinal Dolan sounds off on New York’s ‘hideous’ abortion law


>>ANOTHER NEW YORK NATIONAL PRECEDENT WILL BE STASHED, THE MESS AGGRESSIVE WOMEN’S EQUALITY PLATFORM IN THE NATION. IS GOING TO BE IN LAW IN THIS STATE. AND THAT IS THE WAY I HAD SHUT BE. [APPLAUSE] AINSLEY: NEW YORK PASSING A SWEEPING ABORTION LAW ALLOWING MANY ABORTIONS UP UNTIL THE DAY OF THE BABY’S BIRTH. THE MOVE SPARKING OUTCRY ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY WITH MANY AMERICANS ASKING HOW IS THIS OKAY? BRIAN: HERE TO WEIGH IN NEW YORK CITY ARCHBISHOP TIMOTHY DOLAN. WE THOUGHT OF YOU RIGHT AWAY. THERE IS A CATHOLIC GOVERNOR CHEERING THE FACT THAT ABORTION WOULD BE LEGAL IN THIS STATE UP UNTIL ALMOST BIRTH.>>THANKS FOR HAVING ME ON. PLEASE NEVER USE THE WORD WEIGH IN, WHEN I COME ON. I ASKED TO YOU AVOID THAT. BRIAN: MY APOLOGIES.>>THANKS, BRIAN, FOR BRINGING IT UP, GHOULISH, GRISLY, GRUESOME, INDEPENDENT OBSERVERS ABOUT THIS SO-CALLED REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH ACT. THE FACT THAT HE IS CATHOLIC AS FAR AS I’M CONCERNED HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. ANY THINKING HUMAN BEING THAT WOULD WANT A BABY, ALLOW A BABY TO BE ABORTED RIGHT UP TO THE MOMENT OF BIRTH, ANY THINKING, THOUGHTFUL, CONSIDERED HUMAN BEING THAT WOULD THINK THAT ABABY COULD BE, THE ABORTION PROCEDURE COULD GO FORWARD WITHOUT PROPER MEDICAL CARE IS NOW, DOCTORS DON’T HAVE TO BE THERE, ANYBODY THAT THINKS THAT A BABY WHO SURVIVES, A GRUESOME ABORTION PROCEDURE AND THAT A DOCTOR IS NO LONGER REQUIRED TO ATTEMPT TO SAVE THAT BABY’S LIFE, YOU DON’T HAVE TO BE CATHOLIC TO ABHOR THOSE KIND OF THINGS. REMEMBER WHEN GOVERNOR CASEY IN PENNSYLVANIA, HE HAS BEEN GONE 20 YEARS, HERE IS A LIBERAL DEMOCRAT WHO SAID, A CATHOLIC BY THE WAY, I DIDN’T LEARN ABORTION WAS WRONG IN THE CATECHISM. I LEARNED ABORTION WAS WRONG IN MY BIOLOGY BOOKS, MY STUDY OF LAW, PARTICULARLY THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE AND THE 14th AMENDMENT AND ORDINARY COMMON SENSE AND HUMAN REASON. THIS IS JUST AWFUL. AND I DON’T KNOW WHY WE WOULD BRAG ABOUT THIS. WHAT BOTHERS ME, IT USED TO BE THAT OUR OPPONENTS WHEN IT WOULD COME TO PRO-LIFE, LOOK WE WANT TO KEEP ABORTION, SAFE AND LEGAL AND RARE. THEY NO LONGER FIND IT REGRET TABLE PROCEDURE. STEVE: RIGHT.>>THEY WANT IT SAFE, LEGAL AND RARE, ARE YOU KIDDING? NOW IT WILL BECOME DANGEROUS, A DOCTOR IS NOT EVEN, HAS TO DO IT. IT IS GOING TO BE BECOME ENFORCED PEOPLE WITH CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTION TO THE PROCEDURE, HEALTH CARE WORKERS, THERE ARE MANY, WILL HAVE TO DO IT, IT WILL BECOME FREQUENT. SO SAFE, LEGAL AND RARE, FORGET IT. IT IS NOW DANGEROUS, IT IS NOW ENFORCED AND IT IS NOW FREQUENT. THIS IS NOT GOOD FOR OUR COUNTRY. HOW CAN WE BRAG ABOUT THAT? YOU POP CHAMPAGNE CORKS FOR THAT AND DRINK CHABLIS AND LIGHT UP EMPIRE STATE BUILDING? SOMEBODY CHEERING ABOUT IT? I DON’T GET IT. STEVE: THE FACT THE BABY CAN BE BORN ALIVE AND TERMINATE IT. THERE ARE CALLS FOR PEOPLE IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH FOR GOVERNOR CUOMO TO BE EXCOMMUNICATED.>>YOU’RE TELLING ME. I GET WHEELBARROWS OF LETTERS EVERY DAY. I THINK THAT WOULD BE COUNTERPRODUCTIVE, FOR ONE. STEVE: HE DOES NOT FOLLOW CATHOLIC DOCTRINE.>>THERE IS MY POINT, STEVE. WE WOULD GIVE AMMO TO OUR ENEMIES WHO SAY THIS IS INTERNAL CATHOLIC DISCIPLINARY MATTER. THIS IS REALLY NOT CIVIL RIGHTS. THIS IS REALLY NOT BIOLOGY. THESE CATHOLICS DON’T HAVE FREEDOM WHEN IT COMES TO THIS. I THINK WE WOULD BE GIVEN — STEVE: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, CARDINAL, STANDS AGAINST ABORTION. HERE IS THE MOST PROMINENT CATHOLIC IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK, SAYS THIS IS GOOD THING.>>CANNON LAWS WHICH YOU QUOTED, ALSO SAY YOU HAVE TO USE IT FOR MEDICINAL PURPOSE AND THINK THERE WILL BE GOOD EFFECT THAT COME OUT OF IT. WE HAVE A GOVERNOR THAT BRAGS ABOUT IT. HE USES HIS DISSENT FROM CHURCH TEACHING AS APPLAUSE LINES. HE TAKES POPE FRANCIS OUT OF CONTEXT TO DRAW AN ARTIFICIAL CLEAVAGE BETWEEN THE BISHOPS OF NEW YORK AND HOLY FATHER OF HIMSELF. HE WILL NOT BE MOVED BY THIS. WHAT WOULD BE THE USE? BRIAN: HERE IS HIS QUOTE IN RESPONSE TO THE CRITICISM, I HAVE EXPERIENCED THAT ALL MY POLITICAL LIFE. I EXPERIENCED THAT WHEN I SAID A WOMAN HAD THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE. I EXPERIENCED THAT AT EXPONENTIAL LEVEL WHEN NEW YORK WAS FIRST LARGE STATE TO EXPRESS EQUALITY AGAINST THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. THEY HAVE BEEN AGAINST ME ALL THESE ISSUES.>>WHAT DID HE GET? A STANDING OVATION. HE LIKES BEING THE BAD BOY WHEN IT COMES CATHOLIC CHURCH. STEVE: WHAT ABOUT DENYING HIM COMMUNIAN. YOU’RE MAKING ME, I DON’T GET RESTLESS, BUT I AM. THAT IS PASTORAL ISSUE ONE HAS TO TALK TO HIM B I THINK PROPER PEOPLE HAVE. AND, I WOULD BE UNCOMFORTABLE GOING INTO THAT SPIRITUAL AND PASTORAL. THAT IS A GOOD POINT. NOT DENYING HIM. HE MAY HAVE ALREADY SAID I CANNOT APPROACH — AINSLEY: FROM A MEDICAL STANDPOINT. WE INTERVIEWED A DOCTOR WHO AGREED WITH ANOTHER DOCTOR WHO SAID IT IS MORE DANGEROUS ON THE MOTHER TO ABORT A BABY IN THE THIRD TRIMESTER. IT IS BETTER FOR HER CARE JUST TO DELIVER THE BABY. THE PROBLEM, AND THEN YOU THINK ABOUT ALL THESE MOMS THAT WANT BABIES AND CAN’T HAVE THEM. THESE BABIES WONDERFUL HOMES.>>AINSLEY THAT IS ANOTHER GOOD POINT. THANKS FOR BRINGING IT UP. CAN’T WE WORK TOGETHER FOR POSITIVE MITIGATION OF AN UNFETTERED ABORTION LICENSE? CAN’T WE MAKE ADOPTION EASIER. AINSLEY: YES, ADOPTION EASIER.>>CAN WE MAKE TROUBLED MOMS AND DADS STRUGGLING THROUGH A PREGNANCY, CAN WE MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER FOR THEM WITH PROVISION OF MEDICAL CARE, WITH TIME OFF IF THEY NEED IT? CAN’T WE HELP MOTHERS WITH NEWBORN AS BIT MORE. CAN’T WE AT LEAST SAY THAT PEOPLE WHO FIND THIS A HIDEOUS PROCEDURE DO NOT HAVE TO ATTEND TO IT, A DOCTOR OR A NURSE? CAN WE AT LEAST SAY IF WE KNOW FOR SURE THE HEART IS BEATING ABORTION WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED? AINSLEY: BABIES FEEL PAIN. DON’T THE BABIES IN THE THIRD TRIMESTER FEEL PAIN?>>WHAT YOU SAID TOO, PHYSICIANS WOULD TELL ME THAT. IT WOULD BE SAFER, MOM, IF YOU WANT ABORTION, GIVE BIRTH TO THE BABY, THEN THAT WILL TERMINATE THE BABY, THAT IS INFAN AT THAT SIDE, BUT THAT IS WHAT WE GOT NOW. BRIAN: HOW DOES THE CATHOLIC CHURCH STAND ON MOM’S LIFE IN DANGER, MEDICALLY DANGEROUS FOR HER, WHEN YOU HAVE TO MAKE TO THAT CHOICE?>>AINSLEY THE PHYSICIANS YOU TALK TO THESE DAYS THAT IS NOT TOO FREQUENT. THERE ARE SO MANY ALTERNATIVES THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WOULD HAVE A RIGOROUS PRO-LIFE STANCE YOU COULD NEVER TERMINATE LIFE OF INNOCENT PERSON EVER, OKAY? WHETHER THAT BE IN WAR, WHETHER THAT BE — AINSLEY: MOTHER HAS CANCER AND CANCER COME BACK.>>CANNOT PURPOSELY KILL THE BABY. THERE IS ENOUGH THOUGHTFUL ROOM THERE THERE CAN BE WAY TO SAVE THE LIFE OF BOTH. STEVE: CARDINAL, CLEARLY THIS LAW IS POLITICAL CALCULATION.>>YEAH. STEVE: I DON’T KNOW THAT YOU’RE GOING TO TALK DIRECTLY TO GOVERNOR CUOMO BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? IT WILL BE ON YOUTUBE, YOUR APPEARANCE, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE HIM TO KNOW ABOUT HOW YOU FEEL ON THIS?>>I WOULD SAY, LOOK, GOVERNOR, YOU AND I WORKED A LOT OF TIME FOR COMMON GOOD. THIS IS ONE AREA WE COULD BUT THIS IS HIDEOUS. DO NOT BRAG ABOUT MAKING THE STATE OF NEW YORK THE ABORTION CAPITAL OF THE WORLD. THAT IS NOT AN LIGHTENED PROGRESSIVE POSTURE. AN ENLIGHTENED PROGRESSIVE POSTURE, TAKE CARE OF SMALLEST, DEFENSELESS, INNOCENT HUMAN BEINGS I CAN’T THINK OF ONE MORE THAN BABY IN THE WOMB. LET’S WORK TOGETHER TO PROTECT THE LIFE. AINSLEY: CARDINAL, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PARENTS THAT NEED CHRISTIAN ADVICE, GODLY WISDOM, RAISING KIDS IN AN ENVIRONMENT LIKE THIS? WHEN WE LIVE IN NEW YORK CITY. I’M RAISING MY DAUGHTER. I LOVE THE CITY. THE BELIEFS IN THE CITY ARE COUNTERTO MANY OF THE THINGS I GREW UP LEARNING.>>ARE THEY EVER. AINSLEY: HOW DO WE RAISE OUR KIDS IN THIS COMMUNITY NOW?>>I JUST DID A BAPTISM ON YESTERDAY, ON SUNDAY, WHICH I TRY TO DO EVERY SUNDAY. ONE OF THE LINES IN THERE TO THE PARENTS, YOU ARE THE FIRST AND BEST OF TEACHERS. DON’T GIVE SCHOOLS THE ENVIRONMENT, TV, SOCIAL MEDIA, DON’T GIVE THEM SWAY OVER THEIR KIDS. YOU ARE THE FIRST AND PRIMARY TEACHERS BY YOUR EXAMPLE AND BY YOUR WORDS. COUNT ON PEOPLE TO DO IT. MAKE SURE THEY HAVE NURTURING FRIENDS. MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE ENVIRONMENT OF A CHURCH. MAKE SURE THEY HAVE A SCHOOL WHERE THE VALUES WILL BE BUTTRESSED NOT THROWN OUT THE WINDOW. I WAS SO SAD TO SEE MRS. PENCE CRITICIZED BECAUSE SHE TEACHES IN A SCHOOL BASED ON BIBLICAL VALUES. DOES NOT THE EDUCATION OF KIDS BECOME FIRST? IS THAT NOT THE FIRST PRIORITY OF THE MOM AND DAD?

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    Marg Lam

    Stop avoiding the ISSUE CARDINAL DOLAN! You are not representing the Catholic Church at all. It WOULD BE very much to the point to EXCOMMUNICATE gov Cuomo as the EXAMPLE of the hideousness of his passing this law OR YOU ARE COMPLICIT.

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    Prino Prince

    As usual the targeted group for these abortions will be black women. “79 percent of abortion-offering Planned Parenthood facilities are within walking distance of black or Hispanic neighborhoods,” and “62 percent are near black neighborhoods.”

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    Joshua Arnold

    The catholic church, and cardinal Dolan are a fraud. The catholic church is now promoting world government and the demonic New World Order! The fact Cuomo hasn't been excommunicated is a sign of complicity by the catholic church.

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    Chris Cruise

    Hey Dolan you’ll be in hell right next to the abortionists so soft coward. You stand behind the rainbow cross and you’ll pay for it.

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    Henry Hill

    I was in agreement with Dolan until he abdicated his responsibility on Excommunicating Coumo. Just like moving Pedophile Priest around, Dolan is WORTHLESS.

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    Reno Moore

    these cardinal isn't even willing to stand on solid ground– hes nearly as guilty for not condemning it totally and excommunicating him

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    Edward

    So excommunicating Cuomo would be counter productive. How so Cardinal? Woundn't it be holding the Govenor responsible for the harm he is doing to so many women and
    their babies. I have never heard a woman who has carried her baby to full term say she regrets her decision.

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    Patrick Kearns

    The most outrages lie Republicans ever came up with. Do your fact checking before you believe these lunatic fucks.

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    Clemente Apollonj

    I am from Europe and there is basically no country that lets you have a late term abortion, luckily. Do you Americans really think it is ok to abort a 9 months old fetus that would be able to live on its own? That is what Cuomo (NY) and many other democratic states are now allowing. Are you democrats insane?

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    richard phillips

    CARDINAL TIMOTHY DOLAN PUT ASHES ON HIS BOYFRIEND / BABY KILLER GOVERNOR CUOMOS HEAD ON ASH WEDNESDAY! HEY TIMMY!! YOU'RE GONNA BURN IN HELL!!

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    John

    According to his own law I can legally come to New York and abort him because he’s a defect, abortion after birth so I can abort Cuomo! Not a threat either just that is what his law states that people with defects can be aborted after they’ve been delivered,so it would only be merciful to abort cuomo!

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    mzavros

    Dolan wants those "babies" to grow up into tender, smooth young boys… oiled up… for his and his perverted ilk's pleasure.

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    Kim O'Brien

    How many adopted children have Catholic clergy adopted? EXACTLY ZERO. Savita Halappanavar in the Republic of Ireland had to die so women can now have safe abortions in Ireland.

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    Kim O'Brien

    If the church was against killing people why did Cardinal Spellman endorse the US war in Vietnam? Who's going to take care of the so called 65 million babies? Not the Good Cardinal he is married to god and possible waiting to become pregnant with the next savior. Adopting children? That would be way to much like work. Is his housemaker serving him good food, washing his vestments and keeping the rectory clean? For the Cardinals sake I hope so nothing like having a few beers at the rectory either.

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    Kim O'Brien

    "The baby can be born alive and then terminated." That's not abortion its infancided. No US jurisdiction permits that not now nor will any abortion or medical ethics law either. But why bother with the truth when exaggeration will do. Dolan is a complete idiot.

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    GoogleLeviticus19-29

    Thank you Missouri … we will liberate these abortion concentration camps …
    just like we did the slaves camps in america and europes victim camps of ww2..

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    Tony D

    Cardinal Dolan is wrong and trying to skirt the issue . The Fox host was quite correct that it is against Catholic doctorine and if he had any backbone they would excommunicate him no matter if they think it would help him . The Catholic church is liberal and socialist now and these priests are good talkers but support this liberal agends in my opinion . And , yes , i am a Catholic but i just have to look at this Pope to see this

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    Dennis M

    New York is the city that banned super-sized soft drinks. So they believe in bodily autonomy when it comes to killing babies, but not when it comes to putting a lot of soda in your body.

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    god_herself

    But you know that Alabama has the highest infant mortality rate. In Early term abortions the fetus didn't feel pain. It has a heartbeat but it doesn't feel pain. Also basically all abortions are in the first term. If an infant dies it feels pain. Now ask yourself what is more humane.

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    robert wesley

    this idiot Dolan won't stand up for marriage between a man and woman either. He is a weak stupid man. He will go to Hell with all his rotten homo friends

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    Orla Mccahey

    Murdering babies. The devil has taken over in these people legislating this. These people will burn in hell.

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    UNDER GRACE

    Don't give the schools the precedence of the children, another words homeschool them, because ur ideology will not take precedence over their ideology when they are there the entirety of their plastic years….

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    jerolvilladolid

    Thats definitely a new york priest. He cant even excommunicate the most murderous son of a * (cuomo), who will be responsible for murdering millions

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    Norma Guimte

    Now, you are talking about abortion, Bishop? Perhaps you should have sounded off right when the governor signed the bill! Fight it out!

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