Botham Jean’s brother forgives, hugs convicted murderer Amber Guyger


>>Dana: WELCOME BACK VERY POWERFUL SCENE IN A TEXAS COURT ROOM. A MAN HIS BROTHER WAS SHOT TO DEATH BY DALLAS POLICE OFFICER FOR GIVING HIS BROTHER’S KILLER HER.>>IF YOU TRULY ARE SORRY, I KNOW I CAN SPEAK FOR MYSELF. I FORGIVE YOU. AND… I KNOW IF YOU GO TO GOD AND ASK HIM, HE WILL FORGIVE YOU. AND I DON’T THINK, AGAIN, I’M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, NOT EVEN FOR MY FAMILY. BUT I LOVE YOU JUST LIKE ANYONE ELSE. AND I’M NOT GOING AS I HOPE YOU ROT AND DIE, JUST LIKE MY BROTHER DID. I PERSONALLY WANT THE BEST FOR YOU. AND I WASN’T GOING TO HAVE HER SAY THIS IN FRONT OF MY FAMILY OR ANYONE, BUT I DON’T EVEN WANT YOU TO GO TO JAIL. I WANT THE BEST FOR YOU. BECAUSE I KNOW THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT BOTHAM WOULD WANT ON THE BEST WOULD BE TO GIVE YOUR LIFE TO CHRIST. I’M NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE. I THINK GIVING YOUR LIFE TO CHRIST WOULD BE THE BEST THING THAT BOTHAM WOULD WANT YOU TO DO. AGAIN, I LOVE YOU AS A PERSON. AND I DON’T WISH ANYTHING BAD ON YOU. I DON’T KNOW IF IT’S POSSIBLE BUT CAN I GIVE HER A HUG, PLEASE?>>YES.>>Dana: THE JUDGE ALSO HUGGING THE FORMER OFFICER, AMBER GUYGER, GIVING HER A BIBLE AFTER SENTENCING HER TO TEN YEARS BEHIND BARS FOR KILLING A NEIGHBOR, AN UNARMED BLACK MAN, AND HIS OWN APARTMENT. SHE SAID SHE MISTOOK IT FOR HER APARTMENT AND THOUGHT SHE WAS AN INTRUDER. THAT’S BRING IN OUR FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR, THEOLOGIAN AND ETHICIST. YOU COULD HELP US THINK ABOUT THIS. THE AMOUNT OF POISE AND DIGNITY FROM THE 18-YEAR-OLD YOUNG MAN WAS REALLY INCREDIBLE.>>THE POISE AND DIGNITY CAME FORTH FROM A HEART THAT HAD ALREADY GIVEN UP A JUST CAUSE THAT HE HAD AGAINST THIS POLICE OFFICER. LET ME SAY, A JUST CAUSE. WE MAKE ALL SORTS OF EXCUSES AND OUR PERSONAL LIVES WHY WE WON’T FORGIVE SOMEBODY. IT USUALLY HAS TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT THE OTHER PERSON DID SOMETHING WRONG, OBJECTIVELY WRONG. BUT FORGIVENESS IS SAYING EVEN THOUGH I HAVE A JUST CAUSE AGAINST YOU, I’M GOING TO GIVE IT UP. BECAUSE GOD IS THE ONLY ONE WHO’S PERFECT. DANA, AS I WAS WALKING INTO THE STUDIO, A GENTLEMAN IN THE PARKING LOT — I’M HERE IN PITTSBURGH, PENNSYLVANIA, VISITING FAMILY AND A GENTLEMAN SAID WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ON TV NOW AND I SAID I’M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE STORY OF THIS GUY WHO FORGAVE THE KILLER OF HIS BROTHER AND HE SAID THAT’S WHAT THE WORLD NEEDS RIGHT NOW. THAT’S WHAT WE NEED IN THIS VERY TENSE POINT IN OUR COUNTRY. HE SAID DIDN’T JESUS SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT? THE BIBLE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT IF YOU DON’T FORGIVE, GOD WON’T FORGIVE YOU. JUDGE NOT LEST YOU BE JUDGED.>>Dana: I REMEMBER HEARING PRESIDENT BUSH TELLING ME AT ONE PRESIDENT BUSH TELLING ME AT ONP PRESIDENT BUSH TELLING ME AT ONI PRESIDENT BUSH TELLING ME AT ONO PRESIDENT BUSH TELLING ME AT ONG PRESIDENT BUSH TELLING ME AT ONV PRESIDENT BUSH TELLING ME AT ONN PRESIDENT BUSH TELLING ME AT ONS PRESIDENT BUSH TELLING ME AT ONI PRESIDENT BUSH TELLING ME AT ONS SOMETHING THAT YOU DO FOR YOURSELF AS WELL. SO THAT YOU CAN MOVE ON. HE LOST HIS BROTHER WHO HE LOVED VERY MUCH. TALK TO ME ABOUT THE BRAVERY OF THIS YOUNG MAN WHO SAYS HE WAS NEVER PLANNING TO SAY THIS IN FRONT OF HIS FAMILY BUT THAT HE CHOSE TO SPEAK AND WHEN YOU LIVE YOUR FAITH AND YOU CHOOSE TO SPEAK ABOUT IT, IT CAN OFTEN FEEL A LITTLE SCARY.>>YEAH, EXACTLY. TO BRING BOTH OF THOSE POINTS TOGETHER, DANA, WHETHER YOU DO IT FOR YOURSELF, FOR SOMEBODY ELSE. I THINK THE CONSEQUENCE OF DOING SOMETHING OUT OF LOVE IS THAT IT ALSO HELPS YOU. BUT IT’S LOVE THAT DRIVES THE DECISION. IT’S LOVE FOR THE OTHER PERSON. THE RESULT IS THAT BOTH ARE WINNERS. SOMEBODY JUST WROTE TO ME ON FACEBOOK, WHEN I POSTED THAT I WAS GOING TO BE ON THIS AFTERNOON AND SHE SAID MY BROTHER WAS KILLED IN 2007 AND I’VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO FORGIVE UNTIL NOW. WATCHING THIS YOUNG MAN DO IT. IT’S IT TIED TO SEE WHO WINS. FIRST OF ALL, THE WOMAN WHO RECEIVED FORGIVENESS, THE POLICE OFFICER. SECONDLY, THE GUY WHO FORGAVE. WE KNOW HE’S GOING TO BE IN A LOT BETTER POSITION RIGHT NOW AND THIRD, IT’S ALL OF US. WE ALL WIN. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NOT WINNING AND THE OPPOSITE OF JUST HOLDING A GRUDGE, ANGER EATS AWAY AT OUR SOUL. OUR OWN SOUL AND THE SOUL OF OUR NATION.>>Dana: WHAT ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS ENTIRE TRIAL — I DON’T KNOW IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO FOLLOW IT BUT THROUGHOUT YOU HAD A LOT OF LOVE AND KINDNESS WITHIN THIS COURT ROOM. WITH EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDING THE TERRIBLE SITUATION. THE LOSS OF A LIFE, MISTAKE THAT TURNED OUT TO BE SOMETHING SHE’S GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND TEN YEARS IN PRISON FOR. THE BAILIFF WAS KIND. THE JUDGE GIVES HER A BIBLE. YOU’VE DONE PRISON MINISTRY IN YOUR LIFE. THIS ISN’T TYPICALLY HOW IT GOES DOWN.>>IT’S NOT IN THE DIFFERENCE IS HATRED OR LOVE. IT’S ANGER OR FORGIVENESS. I THINK WE APPLY, EACH ONE OF US IN OUR OWN LIVES AND IT’S NOT ONLY ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS. IT’S ACTUALLY FORGIVING WHEN I HAVE A JUST CAUSE AGAINST ANOTHER PERSON, FORGIVING WHEN THERE’S A JUST CAUSE. I THINK THAT’S THE HEART OF IT ALL.>>Dana: IF THAT PERSON ISN’T SORRY ABOUT SOMETHING, STILL FORGIVING IS THE WAY TO GO, RIGHT?>>JESUS SAID FOR EXAMPLE, HE WAS BEING CRUCIFIED AND HE SAID

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